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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Mar 11, 2013 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Hey all,

I am curious as to how the denizens of this forum feel about the DMB? Do you like? Dislike? Also, how do you all measure up DMB with Phish?

I personally love DMB but can't stand Phish......just curious how others feel.


Peace

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Poster: stuppid Date: Mar 11, 2013 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

The tunes are alright. I like to see them live but do not listen to them much otherwise. Like the previous poster I am not much a fan of the singing. I cannot understand a word he says most of the time. I am normally pretty good picking up the lyrics of songs but there are several DMB songs that I ave heard dozens if not hundreds of times that I have absolutely no idea what he is saying. It sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles. His shows are very entertaining though.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 11, 2013 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

They are one the most puzzling successful bands I have ever heard.He is such a horrible singer he might as well be singing in Farsi,the original sax player was truly talentless,the violinist is possibly one of the worst professional musicians in a popular band I have ever heard,I would think you could walk into any junior high and the violinist in the band could match his abilities,as for the bass player he is on par with the violinist and sax player(he shows off his stunning lack of ability in the video below) and Dave's ability on guitar matches his vocal chops,the drummer seems to bash his way along.

I randomly picked a recent version of Watchtower and unearthed this gem,it opens with a 4 minute bass solo that I think Phil could play now at 70 something if you broke all ten of his fingers,the joker with the violin then assaults your senses with a comical solo and Dave sings it in a bizarre fashion,a hilariously bad attempt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-rlp1ySZ5s

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I am still a little unsure about how you feel about their musical abilities.........

FWIW, the vast majority of musicians I've spoken to at music festivals won't argue with the commercial success of DMB, but they were almost universal in their opinion that Matthews himself is an arrogant prick - while at the same time admitting they wouldn't mind opening for them.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

+1.

I had no real opinion up to now.... I usually don't inspect dogshit on the street, I just avoid it completely.

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Poster: Daddy D Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

LMAO

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Mar 11, 2013 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

all you need to say is "wah-wah pedal violin"...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

in the same category as a Leslie cab on a vocal mike

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I play bass...that was punishingly weak for a stage pro. Sounded like scale practice.

try this instead http://tinyurl.com/b2rz69u


I'll take Phish...if I have to choose. Like choosing a root canal over a hip replacement.

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Poster: listentothiseddie Date: Mar 11, 2013 5:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Nice! Thanks for that.

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Poster: Quasarider Date: Mar 12, 2013 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Ha!!!! The choice has been made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5yd8t9AFbw&;playnext=1&list=PLC89A6EF5ABADCA10&feature=results_video

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Mar 12, 2013 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

that was like a root canal...

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Mar 11, 2013 5:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

nice palette cleanser...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 12, 2013 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

But if you compare most of the touring bass players out there to either "Ox", Phil or Tim Bogert; don't most fall short of the benchmark?

And JSYK, I am not a big DMB fan. I don't change stations of he comes on the radio. Pleasant listening with not much substance. I guess it is kinda like "hippie elevator music".



This post was modified by user unknown on 2013-03-12 15:04:35

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 11, 2013 1:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Like the musicianship--can't stand the high-pitched, whiny voice. After a while, a lot of the jams start to sound the same to me, but there are some undeniably good tunes. Didn't care for the electric violin sound, either (aint exactly Papa John Creach of Hot Tuna renown.)

Live from Central Park is a pretty good album but nothing to write home about.

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Poster: listentothiseddie Date: Mar 11, 2013 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Phish has some interesting moments, I dont see how anyone can write them off completely, although I wouldnt go out of my way to see them. I can respect their efforts, even if I dont personally like them that much.

DMB on the other hand I just dont get. Its all light, pseudo hippy fluff, with nothing, and I mean NOTHING interesting going on.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 12, 2013 6:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

"Its all light, pseudo hippy fluff"

A drummer for a band I follow (who shall remain nameless) once referred to DMB as "hippie elevator music".

Still not sure if he meant that as an insult or a compliment.....

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

there is a great DMB show that have I've caught on the Palladia channel on cable. it has Warren Haynes making a guest appearance and rocks front to back. i would definitely go to see them though i have yet to have the chance. the percussion/drummmers are unreal. they get it to great jams and Dave seems to put everything he's got into each song.very original sound and i definitely appreciate that.

PHISH SUCKS PERIOD

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Well I guess the majority doesn't care for DMB too much....I really like the Fenway Park show from 2006 :-)

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 11, 2013 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Nothing personal adedhed68,we can be a crotchety lot and I'm sure there are some things I like that you could just tear to shreds so crank up your Fenway 06' show proudly.

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Mar 11, 2013 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

:-)

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Mar 12, 2013 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I love DMB. Their shows are usually incredible. I would imagine that the people on this thread calling them "hippie light" or "elevator music" are just suffering from underexposure, because that band rocks in a very very objective way.

Phish is a lot of fun, but for me their tunes lack emotional content, which just makes their jams sound sterile sometimes. But in the end they also rock.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 13, 2013 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

"hippie elevator music" - That would be my charge.

Someone else mentioned it but I just can't past the high, whiny vocals. If I want that I'll go with Bon Iver - and I don't want that. Matthews looks like he's passing a jagged, 6 pound kidneystone with every note he sings.

Admittedly, I'm probably a bit jaded by some of the anecdotal stories of him being a douchebag with fans backstage. I did almost see him at the Virginia Beach Amphitheatre a few summers ago - but I left once the opening band - Umphreys McGee - was finished.

He's coming to VAB again this summer - I may give him another shot if I can't get a root canal and a fully awake colonoscopy scheduled that day.....

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Mar 13, 2013 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Are you sure you know who the Dave Matthews Band is? I think maybe you deserve that colonoscopy.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 13, 2013 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Yup - and from what I've seen and heard, I just don't like the music. I understand their commercial success, and I get it as to why DMB fans like the band, but it's just not my cuppa joe.

That said, will you comment further on how/why you think DMB "rocks in a very very objective way."

Please understand, I'm not poking you in the eye with the question - I'm just curious as to how you objectively measure something (music) that for me is very subjective.

And all of us here who have attained 50+ deserve a colonoscopy......

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Mar 13, 2013 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

You don't think there's such a thing as bad music?

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Mar 13, 2013 10:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

There is a lot of well played, bad music out there.

a form vs substance kind of thing.

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Poster: Scrim Date: Mar 12, 2013 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Phish: +1

Dave Mathews Band is boring. I never understood their popularity. But that's ok, for each their own.

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Poster: Quasarider Date: Mar 12, 2013 1:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

DMB, They are ok but way to many drunk people and traffic jams. I can remember some girl selling water at a Dave Matthews show at SPAC on the way out of the venue she was saying something like "all you fake hippie wannabes get your water", not the best sales pitch but funny. It took an extra couple hours to get home because security made us leave a certain way and got stuck in a massive traffic jam.
I love Phish and have been seeing them since 93. Although I didn't see any shows from 99 till Treys comeback tour in 08 (won tix on the radio). I stopped seeing them because the scene started to get really sketchy and not wanting to deal with that influx. Plus the fact that I could catch a band like Galactic,MMW or Govt Mule in a club or theatre and have a more intimate experience with less BS and cheaper. Since 08 I've caught them a few times a year and had a great time at shows, seems things have mellowed out and its more back to the stranger helping strangers thing vs the tweaked out club kids it started to become.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Mar 11, 2013 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I saw them in Vegas in 1995 open for the Dead, their drummer came out on the last day and sat in for the drums segment. As far the music, I can take it or leave it, I can only listen to that blend of instruments for so long...they did do a great version of Watchtower...the highlight of their set for me was the pack of gorgeous showgirls in bikini tops that set up in my area, one of which actually took off her top during the Dead show, bless her heart...

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Poster: McKush Date: Mar 11, 2013 3:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

honestly cant stand him one bit-not musically dave himself. my freind met him somewhere in the backstage area in vegas 95 at sam boyd when he opened for the dead and my friend simply said " hey dave great set" in passing to which dave turned and replied " its david." turned and walked away. 2. i had an old friend who was on the entertainment staff at northwestern university in chicago and he tried to book dmb to play for 2 million(yes that was the student entertainment fund at the time) and dave simply replied saying that he wont do any show for less than 2.5 million. based on those two personal accounts from people i know actually interacting with him i have to say boo that band.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 12, 2013 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

Put me in the HELL YES DMB category and in the
mehhh for Phish.

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Mar 12, 2013 5:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I like Phish although not fanatically but I can not stand DMB, not really sure why but when I hear their music to me it is like fingernails on a chalkboard. To each there own but do not like DMB at all!

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Poster: b42l0ng Date: Mar 12, 2013 8:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band (Non-Dead)

I will listen to phish before DMB 9 1/2 times out of 10. Both bands are very talented. I don't like everything phish does. Some songs are too niche for me and their overall sound does not grab me enough to be in their corner. My daughter is skiing in Vermont right now and I gave her a great phish playlist. That's their element. Time and place... Speaking of, DMB plays shows EVERY summer to an unbelievable amount of HOT college chicks. It's a nice scene if you can deal. DMB did Eyes of the World on the day Jerry died. To me, it's heartfelt and increases his credibility tremendously. He's best with Warren or RRandolph. Phish are great on their own, but I think the instrument mix is too unusual. Bottom line- spend the $$ and see for yourself.